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Is anybody out there?

Posted by on Feb 24, 2010 in Uncategorized | 69 comments

I should probably warn you: this post has distinctly spiritual mutterings.

Now there is probably an unwritten rule somewhere that a good Mummy Blogger should avoid  dangerous topics like religion and politics and stick to safer subjects (like poo) but oh well…

Because I had a bit of a strange experience the night before last and I’m curious to see what you thought about it.

I’d had a really awful day. Up before 5am after being up and down almost hourly, I had spent the day beyond exhausted juggling a strangely hyper-active Kai, considering how sick he was, desperately trying to persuade him to eat and drink in between changing relentless runny nappies. It had ended with me giving Kai his bath and crying as I saw how horribly thin he has become, literally skin and bone, and such a world away from my huge, chunky toddler. His cheeks are sunken, his ribs stand out from his chest, his arms are like little sticks.

Ant wasn’t home and I felt so afraid. If the diarrhoea and the inevitable weight loss didn’t stop soon there was a very real chance Kai was going to end up back in hospital, and I was beginning to despair that it ever would stop. I was so tired, it was one of the moments where you really are at the end of your strength.

So I prayed.

Taken from http://www.sxc.hu/

I cried and I prayed. I don’t know who to, I don’t believe in a Christian God that’s for sure. I’m not sure I believe in any God. But pray I did. For the diarrhoea to finally stop and for Kai to start eating again. I’m sure many of us have been there, especially as parents. Times when we are so desperate for something to change, when our need is so raw, that all we can do is offer up our selves to something outside of ourselves.

It’s just that the strange thing, in this instance, is, well, it worked.

Since that time Kai has only had one dirty nappy and his appetite has rapidly been returning to normal.

And I’m left wondering, was it a coincidence? Or did my prayer actually change something?

I’m talked about my spiritual confusion before, and experiences like this do nothing to alleviate that. I am a rational person generally, and how ever hard I try I can’t believe in an omnipotent being with the power to grant or deny prayer, a deity separate from His/Her creation that for what ever reason has decided to allow humanity to suffer unspeakable loss, cruelty, devastation and genocide while watching from a far. Apologies to anyone that offends but I just can’t.

But I’m also not closed minded enough to rule out any possibility of ANY spiritual element to existence.

I just wonder, if it exists, what form it takes?

Is our understanding of what’s spiritual and meaningful merely a product of human conciousness? Do we MAKE meaning though our need to make sense of the world around us rather than have that meaning given to us by a higher power? I think we do. It seems to be ingrained in our human nature itself to try and ascribe meaning to things, to find answers for those things that are bigger than us and that we do not understand. And it seems to be a natural instinct to share and integrate those beliefs into our cultures and society. The amazing discovery of the beyond-ancient temple in Turkey suggests that shared belief and rudimentary religion may even have been the shaping force of society itself.

But, at the same time, I don’t think that devalues the ‘beliefs’ we hold, that we have created. Our shared myths and stories, across very different nations and cultures suggest that we are tapping into ‘something’, perhaps some kind of collective unconscious as Jung suggested. And that ‘something’ has huge power over our daily lives, the way we view the world, even the way in which we write our laws and organise our society.

Even if this ‘something’ is entirely human-made, does that mean it does not have power? Has the combined ‘force’ of our belief and need to ascribe meaning to things actually created something that DOES affect us on a spiritual level? Even science, for centuries the antithesis to religion, is beginning to overlap a little here as forays in to Quantum Physics, explore how thought could, theoretically, actually shape matter. New Age movements tap into this idea with their ideas of positive thinking, goal setting, even cosmic ordering. But do they hold any weight?

Does the power of our prayer, our NEED, actually change our reality?

Or am I wrong. IS there a separate deity of some sort, or ‘spirit’, that existed before us and will exist long after we have all killed each other.

I don’t know. I’m never going to know. But it does interest me, it makes me think and wonder.

So, I’m interested.

Do you pray? Who to? I’m especially interested if , like me, you don’t really know. Have you ever had a prayer answered? How have you made sense of that?

What do you think happens when we pray?

I should make clear now, this is not meant as a criticism of anyone’s spiritual or religious beliefs and I will delete any comments that in any way are disrespectful or derogatory of people’s beliefs. We are allowed to disagree with each other, but it needs to remain objective and polite and not get personal. We’re all intelligent adults so I’m expecting that you can manage that.

P.S What do you know, this post mentioned religion AND poo! Score!!

  • littledudesmummy

    Fascinating post.
    I so want to reply with a really intelligent comment, but I know it'll turn into gobbildymush.
    I had a similar experience to yours – when D had to go back into hospital at 5 days old. I spent the whole first night crying, and the whole second night praying there wouldn't be a third. It worked. Or it was a coincidence. Who knows?
    Personally, I think I have to believe in *something* – it's kind of too scary for me to think we're all on our own when things get really really bad.
    I was brought up a 'good catholic girl', and I do very much believe in God, but it's kind of my own version of what I was taught… if that makes sense?
    Not to belittle anyone or anything (and please don't smite me big guy!), but I think faith of any creed is a bit like a security blanket sometimes – something to cling onto when you need reassurance – and if it helps, that can only be a good thing – whoever you're praying to.

    Either way, divine intervention or no, I'm so glad Kai is on the mend. Much love to both of you xxx

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  • http://crunchiemummy.wordpress.com/ If I Could Escape

    So pleased your little one is doing better. I'm actually still trying to figure out my own spiritual beliefs, but have found myself in similar circumstances praying for divine intervention. Great post.

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  • http://twitter.com/shirleyschmidto Michael Shirley

    Firstly, let me say how very glad I (and A) are that Kai's health is improving. Whether it was aided by prayer or not, the important thing is that he's getting better.

    I think it's brilliant that you've brought up a topic like this. Why shy away from such things because you're a “mummy blogger”?

    Like Rosie S right at the top, I was raised Catholic and as a result was turned off religion. (I think there may be a blog in that.) These days… I just don't know. As a concept, a higher entity/deity is fascinating. On an intellectual level, I'm very interested in religious and spiritual beliefs. Being spiritual myself just isn't for me, it seems. If anything, I'm inclined toward Pagan belief systems, but I just don't think I'm all that spiritual. Perhaps I'm too cynical.

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  • http://pokeintheeyewithastick.blogspot.com/ Emma

    I was a Christian from the age of 11 to 19. I say that because from the age of 19 I have not prayed/picked up a bible. I've gone to church occasionally.
    I still kinda call myself a Christian as I do believe in God and the power of prayer. Emma :)

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  • nomorexcuses

    Wow – you really started something here didn't you?! What a great post. It seems us mums have got quite a lot more to talk about than poo (& working out in my case!)… My view is that there is nothing wrong with 'asking' even if you don't really know who or what you're asking. Sometimes we all need a little help from, or at least to feel listened to, by something bigger & more far-reaching than ourselves. Ask 'the universe', ask whatever form your God takes or ask your lost loved ones – so long as we say 'please' then I guess / hope they'll listen!

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  • http://www.crystaljigsaw.blogspot.com/ Crystal Jigsaw

    Firstly, I don't believe in coincidence. Everything happens for a reason; life, death, illness, happiness, sadness, everything. That is my belief and it always will be. Our lives are mapped out for us before conception; again, my beliefs. I do believe in God, but a God of a higher realm, divine spirit, and even though I pray often, my beliefs don't extend to that of Jesus Christ being the son of God. When we pray we often ask for something to happen, for most of us this is for ourselves, our own families, those closest to us. If we don't get what we asked for we will naturally assume God wasn't listening, and some just assume that the reason the prayer wasn't answered is simply because there is no God. But we have to experience everything in our lives in order for us to become richer in our souls. Death is usually the most difficult emotion for us to cope with and I went through a very angry period for many years after my dad passed on, I questioned my faith continuously. Yet I continued to ask God why had He taken my dad from me. So even though I kept saying there isn't a God, I kept on praying to one.

    I've never been a Christian. My beliefs lie strongly with the afterlife; my dad visits me occasionally and I am fortunate enough to make contact with past souls in my home. Christianity looks upon these acts in a very patronising way, I have been labelled as evil and gullible on more than several occasions. But I continue to pray. And God continues to listen. Which is exactly what He did for you.

    God Bless, and I'm so glad Kai is on the mend.
    CJ xx

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  • http://youfoundkelshidingplace.blogspot.com/ Kelly

    I wish I had the time to read all of these comments.
    In the past I have felt jealous of my mum, who is a Christian and believes in God. I just wish I had something that I believed in that much to get me through the hard times. I don't know what I believe. I find it all too confusing to think about really, so I shy away from it. I have never really asked her about it. I think I should.

    I do pray though, although I am not sure who or what I am praying to. I prayed when she had cancer, I prayed so hard when Piran was taken from me to teh SCBU the night he was born. It gives me something to channel my hurt and worry and pain into. If I didn't, I would internalise, and I know from past experience that when I do that, I fall into a big dark hole and just stop functioning. So, it serves a purpose, it keeps me going.

    Sorry, gibberish comment, but I have wanted to write something since I read it. Probably a bit too tired tonight.

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  • lindafromgotyourhandsfull

    I'm not married, my children haven't been christened but I do pray and I also say thanks a lot, and I include the word “God” in those thanks. When I was expecting and then told I had lost my babies/later changed to might have lost my babies, I did what I suspect others have done too and promised “God” I would never be mean again so long as my babies were okay, I also did this when Neil was diagnosed with cancer. Of course I haven't kept that promise but bloody hell I do try, whether I had made it or not. When I began training for a job I had always wanted to do, I used to say thank you every time I opened the door to the classroom. I pray in church now and again and pray for all sorts of things for all sorts of people. I look at the good people I know through work and home life who have a strong Christian faith and I want to believe like them. I like to go to church and do you know what, I may blog about it…well maybe! x

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